Digit Vs. Rush
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Tags: Fucking Moron, Rush Limbaugh
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Ass Clown
A friend of mine recently asked if I had actually listened to Rush Limbaugh. My quick answer was no, but I had heard him enough to know I disagree with him vehemently. He then sent me a series of links to Rush’s transcripts to see what I thought.
Well, here’s what I think.
I may do a series of these, since he sent me a few links. I’ll be analyzing this one.
The debate begins after the break…
RUSH: Ladies and gentlemen, Robert Gibbs, the White House press secretary, has warned all of us to be very, very careful how we say what we say about the Supreme Court nominee Sonia Sotomayor. I want to apologize for shouting in my latter parts of that opening monologue. I will admit here to just being frustrated as I can be. We’re watching the greatest economy in the world crumble right before our eyes.
Thanks to the economic policies of the Bush administration (and yes, arguably the Clinton administration as well).
Every promised fix is failing right before our eyes. We have thrown trillions of dollars that no doubt cannot be tracked at all of these failing industries and the industries continue to fail and get worse.
The insurance bailout wasn’t tracked well AT ALL, and we paid the price for that. Keep in mind, this was the bailout that was implemented during the Bush presidency. The subsequent bailouts have had much tighter control.
We have authorized a Porkulus bill of near $1 trillion to get shovel-ready projects going, to get the economy going, it’s not working. There’s no new employment to report out there, unemployment at 25-year high last month. None of it is working. And what angers me is I think this is by design.
First off, yes it is working. Projects have begun springing up all over.
Second, it’s JUST STARTED!! You have to give these things time to take effect. Obama’s been president now for less than 6 months. Fixing the economy will take years. Government projects especially take time. What Rush is doing here is summoning the ire of his listeners by stating a lie as truth. Positive economic changes move at a glacial pace, slow enough so that it’s not immediately apparent to the average person. It’s the same thing as the changing seasons. Sure, we’re in the middle of spring right now, but I can’t tell you the difference between yesterday and today. But now his listeners feel empowered to say, “These Obama programs aren’t even working!” because someone in a seeming position of authority said so, and they have not sought out evidence to the contrary.
Nobody in their right mind, I don’t care, liberal, socialist, communist, everybody with half a brain knows that what is being done right now to fix the economy doesn’t fix an economy.
Again, shady tactics from Rush. Invoking the “Nobody in their right mind…” gambit is dishonest. It paints those with a differing opinion as people not in their right minds. In fact, many economists are saying this IS how you fix an economy. Hell, it worked for FDR and the New Deal amazingly well.
But it does a lot of other things. It empowers the people who are spending the money. It keeps the people who are the supposed recipients of the money impoverished. It keeps them nervous, it keeps them on edge. Those people are happy and very, very comforted that the government is trying to do something. And so far it hasn’t worked and so Obama said, “We’re working on this, you ain’t seen nothing yet,” so they’re going to be content to sit there and wait for more assistance to come and it won’t come because it cannot come. This economy is simply too large as it was to be supported by a single entity, the United States government. It simply cannot be. The math doesn’t work; the ideology doesn’t work; the philosophy doesn’t work; the theory doesn’t work. So, yes, I was angry, and I still am. This is the equivalent of a huge insult to my intelligence and to yours. It isn’t working. It can’t work. It will not work. It will fail.
Wrong wrong wrong. Obama’s economic plan doe not keep the top impoverished. It does quite the opposite. Company A needs money. Consumer B needs a job to buy what Company A is selling. What’s the solution? 1) Give money to Company A. 2) Give a job to Consumer B. 3) 1 and 2. The answer is 3. Just giving money to Company A means they are producing goods that no one is going to buy. Just giving a job to Consumer B means he has money, but cannot buy anything with it. By stimulating the company and being sure there’s a market for that company’s goods, the economy can recover. This is not the US Government being the sole means of support for the entire economy. This is the equivalent of living in your parents’ garage while you find a job. I’ve done it. Most of you probably have. Sometimes you need the support of someone who can give it.
As I scour the Internet for show prep or as I occasionally listen to the television news, I hear more and more people referring to my comment “I hope he fails,” referring to the president, still being very upset about this, “Oh, what a dumb political comment that was,” people are saying, “how silly, how stupid, that’s really going to bring moderates to the cause, right, because everybody, when they hear Limbaugh say, ‘I hope Obama fails,’ they think that Limbaugh wants the country to fail.” Now, let me say something to you right here and right now. And look at me. It’s this: Virtually everybody — I don’t care whether they’re conservative, liberal, independent, moderate, or Martian — virtually everybody who heard my comment, “I hope Obama fails,” knows exactly what I meant.
They know what you meant, Rush. But here’s the problem with what you meant, Obama is trying to rescue the nation from the economic disaster that was the last 8 years. He is trying to SAVE OUR ECONOMY. By hoping he fails, you are implicitly hoping his plan to rebuild the American economy fails. That’s myopic. You COULD have said, “I hope he succeeds, but I know he won’t,” but you’re a showman, aren’t you Rush? That would be too reasonable a thing for you to say.
There is not a sane person in this country who genuinely believes I want this country to fail. Ladies and gentlemen, this country is failing because President Obama is succeeding. I don’t care how you choose to measure it. There is no hope on the horizon for a job. There is no hope on the horizon for renewed prosperity. There is no hope on the horizon for economic growth. It’s not there. It’s been promised. It has been said that the only entity that can guarantee all the things I just mentioned is the federal government.
Again, FDR pulled us out of the Great Depression with similar tactics. There is absolutely hope on the horizon. It’s not going to be a sea change solution that happens in the blink of an eye. Hell, the New Deal took most of the 30s to truly take hold. But the only other options we seem to have available to us are do nothing, which would be disastrous, or continue with tax breaks for corporations, privatization of government services and deregulation of corporate regulations. These are EXACTLY the things that got us into the hot water we’re in now.
The federal government has thrown trillions of dollars at failing entities, industries, and they’re still failing and getting worse. President Obama’s policies will not fail in one regard: They will not fail in impoverishing and enslaving more and more Americans the longer his policies succeed. This that is happening to us, all of us at this moment, unemployment, record high since 25 years ago, one out of seven homes being foreclosed on, the automobile business basically bankrupt after trillions of dollars in bailouts now owned by Obama, Wall Street is an abject mess, the state of California is bankrupt, the state of New York soon will be. All of these places are talking about raising taxes further on people, which will reduce the number of people who are able to hire other people — in other words, create jobs. This is the exact kind of success I wanted to fail. And everybody who heard me say it knew exactly what I meant.
Again, we’re less than 6 months into the Obama presidency. When your car is headed toward a cliff at top speed, it’s going to take some time for the brakes to stop you. Yes, things are still getting worse, but that’s because of the momentum of failure we were left with. Bush didn’t pull over and give Obama the driver’s seat. He bailed out of a moving car, James Bond style. Obama has been VERY clear about the economy. He has said it will get worse before it gets better. No one expected him to be some kind of Deus Ex Machina who would descend from the clouds on a chariot and use his Liberal magic to make everything rainbows and unicorns. Besides, recent reports have indicated that home sales are going back up, and unemployment claims are going down. Neither are where they should be, but change is ACTUALLY HAPPENING!!
It is being used by people on our side of the aisle who are scared to death of conservatives. It is being used by them to say that I’m driving moderates away. It’s being used by people on the left to say that I want America to fail, when everybody in their brain knows exactly what I meant, just as everybody with a brain, everybody with a modicum of education knows that what President Obama is doing will not do what he promises, will not do what he says, it will not revive this economy. We are soon going to be approaching the one-year mark. In fact, the first stimulus package occurred over a year ago. And it was offered by President Bush, and it was rebate checks for the American people. This was to help us buy things. And then some months later there was a second installment of this same rebate plan, checks from the federal government. And then came, as we approached the one-year anniversary of the beginning of massive bailouts starting with TARP, then to the auto companies, and Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, the mortgage industry.
Again with the “Anyone with a brain…” bullshit. It’s that attitude of Us Vs. Them that is absolutely destructive to America. We’re all Americans. We’re all suffering under this crippled economy. We all know someone who was in or is in Iraq. Fostering an atmosphere of distrust and fear is the REAL problem. Divide and conquer. Or in this case, divide and flounder.
A year, my friends, if stimulating these industry sectors with this amount of money has only made it worse, at what point does somebody have the guts to stand up and say, “Stop it. It has failed. It isn’t working, and it shows no signs of working,” and everybody with a brain, with a modicum of education, knows it can’t work. It never has worked throughout the history of human civilization.
FDR!!! FDR!!! FDR!!! STFU!!!
It’s unsustainable whether it be the mental health hospital in Sacramento, whether it be the economy of the state of California, whether it be the automobile industry, whatever government takes on outside of the government sphere, outside of its constitutional role, whatever it takes on that’s in the private sector, with the intention of fixing it, only gets worse. In fact, so do the things they do fix that they think are legitimately theirs to fix. They create the war on poverty; it’s worse than ever in terms of percentages. They create the great Great Society and all of these programs which have featured an $11 trillion transfer of wealth over the past 30 years or so, and these problems have not been abated, they have not been solved, they have not been reduced; they exist.
Fascinating that his estimation of the failures of our economy go back 30 years or so. Here I will agree with him. See, in that time, we saw the rise of Reganomics. Then we cap it all off with Bush II. So yeah, the past 30 years have seen some major economic failures.
It could be said that the federal government’s involvement in the massive welfare state has served to destroy families, minority families, because the government took over the role of the father. The father no longer had to hang around because the government was there every week or month or however often the checks come. So it isn’t working. This kind of failure is exactly what I wanted to avoid. I was hoping that Obama would not succeed in further destroying the United States economy. So there he is, in the middle of a bankrupt state, telling people there they ain’t seen nothing yet to rounds of applause and the standing ovation from, of course, the wealthy Hollywood elites.
It could also be said that the rise or Reganomics has created a middle class that will never be able to dig itself out of debt. Once deregulation swept across the playing field, and wages were kept from growing, we had an entire class of people dependent on credit to live. Want a house? Loan. Want a car? Loan. Want to go to college? Loan. Want to eat? Well, since you don’t have any money in the bank because you’ve been paying for a house, car and schooling, you better have a credit card! It didn’t used to be like this. An entire family could be supported by a single job. But Reganomics was the starter gun that sent credit companies racing for the savings of the middle class. Now we have an economy that doesn’t actually PRODUCE ANYTHING EXCEPT DEBT!! That’s where the failures are. I honestly am not completely on the apple cart with Obama’s stimulus packages. I think there are plenty of things that he shouldn’t do, things he should do differently and things he hasn’t even considered that would be essential. But he is honestly doing more for us now than has been done in, well, at least 8 years. Then maybe, when his plan is given time to flourish, we can start taking a serious look at ending the war on drugs, legalizing marijuana, neutering the health insurance industry, providing free college education for anyone who wants it, paying our teachers like doctors, providing health care for all so we have a healthy work force, opening up dialogues with our enemies so we can understand why they hate us, and they can understand why we don’t hate them. Oh, and enough with the Hollywood Elite bullshit. Just because they’re famous doesn’t mean they don’t have valid opinions. I can think of a certain president from 1980 – 1988 who was Hollywood Elite, after all.
In conclusion. Rush Limbaugh is a fucking idiot.




June 3rd, 2009 at 10:40 am
“In conclusion. Rush Limbaugh is a fucking idiot.”
Yup. But not nearly as much as those who choose to abdicate their own thought process to his vaccuous rants.
June 3rd, 2009 at 11:06 am
Perhaps the most profound observation I ever heard about Ronald Reagan came from Rosalynn Carter on a “60 Minutes” interview during the 1980 election. She said Reagan was a man who “made people proud of their prejudices.” Limbaugh, Hannity, Beck, Fox News, et al., embody that with their right-wing sniveling. Is there any doubt what people Reagan was referring to with his “Welfare Queen” comment or Limbaugh with his “Welfare State” remark? This is bigotry, folks. They will use half-truths or unsubstantiated opinion to shill for right-wing politics and the GOP.
I agree that the Obama Administration may not have all or any of the answers, but consider this:
1. We have pissed away billions of dollars on an illegitimate war in Iraq that the Republicans are STILL trying to rationalize! That’s money and lives that could have been put to much better use! And all for an outcome we cannot predict or control…
2. In Corporate America’s attempt to chase the bottom line, they have exported manufacturing jobs overseas to the point that our ability to manufacture for our own national defense has been severely jeopardized! And then they want to blame the unions…
THIS is the Republican Party for whom Limbaugh “carries the water!” Your assessment of this weasel is spot on!
BTW, I found FOB one night several months ago and I really enjoy what you guys have been doing. Keep up the great work!
June 3rd, 2009 at 2:08 pm
Jobs are outsourced overseas because our gov’t regulations make it impossible to do business here!
Companies can’t even make the silicone for solar panels here in the US anymore, they have to buy it from companies in CHINA! Thank you EPA standards!
Corporate America is chasing the bottom line because THEY ARE BUSINESSES! They exist to make money!
It’s time for the gov’t to get the hell out of our lives and actually allow the Free Market to work.
June 3rd, 2009 at 3:56 pm
John John John…
It’s exactly that free market that sent the jobs overseas.
Allow me to paint a picture for you.
Here int he United States, we have regulations on how goods are manufactured. We have some of these regulations because we’ve recognized and acknowledged that the way we were doing things was damaging to people, the environment, the economy, other businesses, whatever.
As a result, businesses like, maybe a solar panel company, are looking overseas to get raw materials or even finished products. The raw materials are much cheaper over there.
Now why is that? It’s because there are no regulations in China. The businesses are government run, and the government decides what regulations they want to have or even enforce. As a result, the workers over there get paid substandard wages, live in substandard government provided housing, and the Chinese environment is absolutely devastated. Chemical, biological and radiological pollution are rampant, and the mortality rate is absolutely awful. THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THERE’S NO REGULATION!! People get treated as commodities. Is this your suggestion for America? Get rid of the regulations and let the corporations find their own bottom rung? Regulations keep your food safe, your water drinkable, your car from killing you, your air breathable and on and on.
The solution to losing foreign jobs isn’t to deregulate. The solution is to create incentives to do business at home while punishing those who don’t with stiff tariffs. We tried deregulation with the energy companies and got Enron. We tried deregulation with the banking industry and got TARP. We tried deregulation with the credit companies and we got a housing crash. We tried deregulation with the insurance industry and we got AIG. Deregulation is an economic death sentence.
June 3rd, 2009 at 4:51 pm
Folk…he’s an entertainer. He’s a radio personality playing a role for money. He’s so good at his job it’s amazing.
I believe in his character no more than I believe Brad Pitt is a 90 year old man aging backwards.
-Fat
June 3rd, 2009 at 5:17 pm
I liked Brad Pitt aging backwards a lot more than I like Rush. The only distinction is that one is actually entertaining although dry and a bit slow.
All this talk of outsourcing, manufacturing, and consumerism normally gets me really fired up. I don’t want to get off on a total off topic tangent here, so I’ll just stop before I prove to even the most closed minded folks that our world is built for the upper class alone to live on the backs of the middle and lower classes.
That being said…
Larry: he isn’t abdicating his entire opinion, note he actually agreed with a few of the little things Rush said.
Reading are seriuz business.
I have found myself listening to Rush years ago, call it masochism if you like. The man does occasionally make a good point here and there, however over all, he is indeed a fucking idiot, and an assclown to boot.
Even assclowns can make a valid point now and again, Digit knows it.
June 3rd, 2009 at 9:48 pm
Chaos, Larry is DigitDad.
He was referring to people who throw their lots in with Rush. He wasn’t disagreeing with me at all.
June 3rd, 2009 at 11:42 pm
I was hoping to focus more on the 4 main issues than Limbaughs style and his frequent insults. His entertainment value comes from his
Bombasity. The 4 issues I was hoping to discuss that Limbaugh has focused on lately were: Obamas liberal policies as a whole, Soto Mayor’s fitfullness for
the position of supreme justice, the monitization of our debt, and Rep Waxman’s dis honoring the peoples desire for the
elected representatives of our Republic to read the bills they sign. Just 4 specific examples to use for debate.
I agree 100% that I too hope Obama fails in his quest to implement his policies that go beyond liberalism into a mix of
socialism (being defined as services supplied directly by government through tax dollars, or debt *aka future tax dollars* and
Fascism (defined as strong central government keeping private sector intact, but dictating what the private sector must do/produce).
If I wanted a GM car, I would have bought one, but I didnt’, I bought a Honda that I absolutely adore every time I mash the
gas pedal. But now government is saying I must support GM with my tax dollars to save jobs, and later on, to build the eco
cars that I don’t want to buy right now. It is true, I don’t think Obama will force me to buy his lawnmowers with two seats, but I do believe
he will institute a subsidy with my tax dollars to artificially drive down the price tag on eco cars below market rate to the level at which consumers
will buy them. In effect, forcing me to pay a small part of the price for someone elses car that I wouldn’t buy myself.
In the early 1900’s, it was a good thing that the government didn’t try to bail out the
horse and buggy industry to save the buggy making workers, the horse breaders, the black smiths, etc. Because we got cars, which
the public found much more attractive and convenient. Today, it’s not new technology that brought GM down, it was simply a failed business
model. Creative destruction is so usefull in plowing away the inefficients, and making room for better models to flourish, in this case,
Honda’s, Toyota’s, etc. The bailouts are not like living in your parents garage in tough times. Parents love you and willingly give you charity in
tough times, but the government’s use of taxpayer money is closer to a government official knocking on your door and saying
you are required to clear a space in your garage for a stranger to live in during tough times.
Sonia Sotomayor is a very simple example I think. The Statue of Lady Justice is blindfolded for a reason, in that it does not matter who you
are, the law applies to all equally. She gave two candid statements which are always the best I believe for showing what a person honestly
believes. First, she said the courtroom is where policy is made. Second, she said, “I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness
of her experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn’t lived that life.” For the first part, the answer
is “No” policy is made in the legislative branch, so as to be separate from the judicial branch to avoid concentrated power. Second, her quote is
demontratively racist because a white man would be completely ostracised and condemned for saying, “I would hope that a wise white man with the richness of his experiences would more often than
not reach a better conclusion than a latino woman who hasn’t lived that life.” A double standard is not acceptable. If there was one thing I learned
doing jury duty, empathy has no place in deciding the rule of law. To introduce empathy as a foundation of such is to invite bias into a system
that is supposed to have complete impartiality.
Timothy’s meeting with the chinese was to ease their fears of us monetizing our debt is very diconcerting. We don’t have the money to do the things
Obama is doing, and there’s not enough demand in the world for our treasuries (to make loans to us) so we are issueing debt, printing the money as we
need it, and buying our own debt with it. Limbaugh laughs at this because most of the world knows this to be a failed practice that creates inflation.
Mayanmar, Zimbabwe, and the Soviet Union all did this. It does not work out well, and Rush points this out in his radio show.
Lastly. Most people are very concerned about our elected representatives not reading the bills they are signing. To honor this concern, representative
Henry Waxman brings in a speed reader to read the new Environmental Protection bill, who only reads for a minute or two before the commitee starts laughing
at it’s rediculousness and agrees not to continue to have it read. The arrogence of our polititians astounds me. They were literally laughing. Waxman
said he does not know all that is in the bill, but trusts the scientists who created the bill. I’m sorry, I did not elect these scientists to represent me.
Beyond the four examples, FDR is an interesting subject, because his New Deal was, I think, a failure. I don’t want to spend a lot of time on this, but
even his secretary of treasury, Henry Morgenthau, for FDR’s two terms as president said in the end of those 8 years that their plans failed to fix the depression.
He said, “We have tried spending money. We are spending more than we have ever spent before and it does not work … After eight years of this Administration we
have just as much unemployment as when we started … And an enormous debt to boot!” At that time, FDR spent more money than all other previous administrations
combined. He had public works programs instituted with federal tax dollars (or debt), just like Obama, and for the same reason, to give people jobs. Tax dollars
collected in one state to pay for building projects in other states is taxation without represntation, and is not a sustainable job maker. FDR actually paid farmers not
to produce to try and artificially drive up the price of produce after a huge farm production surplus occured due to international trade barriers that he put in
place. This created a huge, expensive beauracracy to try to enforce farmers honesty that they were cutting their production, a beauracracy which became corrupt
with bribes from farmers. FDR instituted the NRA (National Recovery Act, not National Rifle Association, haha) where a few powerfull individuals decided what the price of products/services should be and
fixed those prices accross the country. If you charged less for a product or service that had a fixed price, you were jailed. Business went under that weren’t
able to keep their businesses solvent under the price restrictions. Even a tailor, who gave a 5 cent discount for pressing a pair of pants was jailed. In the end,
a lot of FDR’s programs were declared unconstitutional by the supreme court. But the damage was still done, over that decade, entrepreneurs were too restricted to
justify the risks associated with starting new ventures and creating new jobs.
FDR instituted the first gasoline tax, movie ticket tax, telegraph tax, and a host of other taxes that hurt the very people he was trying to help, the impoverished.
Even if Obama doesn’t raise the poor’s income tax, they still get hosed on their ciggarettes tax, gas tax, proposed private health insurence benefit tax and all
the other product taxes he’s sure to come up with over the next four years. FDR even had a bailout program for struggling businesses! It wasn’t quite like the
“give away” bailouts we have been giving, they were loans to struggling businesses made with taxpayer dollars that were never recovered after the businesses failed anyway.
At the end of his two terms, unemployment was still above 20%. No, I do not like FDR’s new deal, and I don’t like Obamas similar New Deal either. Cenrally controlled economies
simply do not work.
I believe the principles of individual freedom and liberty are what create the greates good for the greatest number. It made us the grandest nation in the world. I’m not a
republican, and I’m not a democrat. As an aside, the main reason I like Glenn Beck is that he voices the same concern that myself and many others have: There is no
difference between the two parties. Republicans do the same things the democrats do. I cant stand Bush, and I can’t stand Obama. I hope that one day, we can reclaim
a little of our founders spirit, and thrive again.
June 4th, 2009 at 12:17 am
Briefly, because I have to go to bed, Spence, watch this clip regarding Sotomayor. It seems many of the conservative judges are guilty of the same things she’s being excoriated for.
June 4th, 2009 at 12:25 am
Also, here are the unemployment rates under FDR from 1933 – 1940:
Looks to me like he reduced unemployment by about 10% at least.
edit: Thumb fixed table to be prettier.
June 15th, 2009 at 11:55 am
FYI, WW2 happened at the end of FDR’s term. THAT is what lowered the unemployment rate. Also look at how the standard of living dropped quite a bit during that time.
March 2nd, 2010 at 1:59 pm
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